Second Law of Thermodynamics: Entropy of the universe always increases.
Entropy, a measure of chaos or disorder of a system will always increase, no matter what the process is.
I sometimes feel that the laws of physics are universal laws , laws which are applicable to society as well. That the disorder or chaos in the society will always increase.That the world is and will always go downhill no matter what you do.
In order to say that we have progressed, we need to define the parameters. Yes, per capita income has increased, so has the average life expectancy. Yes, we can communicate and move anywhere on the planet and claim to be living a more comfortable life. But does it also mean a more fulfilling life? Isn't it so that more people commit suicide then earlier.Inspite of having a great "connectivity" isn't it so that people know much less about people who were once close to them? There are more drug addicts than before. Is there some void in our lives that we try to fill with momentary pleasures?
Supposedly, with the growth in technology, moral growth should have also taken place. If the size of brain increased and so did his capabilty to think logically, why hasn't man realised a few basic facts for so long? Why is it so that still people do not take responsibilty of their actions. People give bribe to every person possible from policeman to passport agent and still wonder why is India amongst the most corrupt countries of the world. You litter on streets and blame the Govt. or the classic statement "Sab aisa hi karte hai" and still say "Cleanliness is next to Godliness".
Some people bear children without knowing whether they can nurture and take care of them, whether they have the time, energy and money to raise a kid. Some others pass on their values (or lack of them) to their children and others around them, who further add their own mess. Everybody takes away more from the society than what one can ever pay... And that is how the entropy increases!!!
Child-free by choice: A growing trend
8 years ago
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@"Some people bear children without knowing whether they can nurture and take care of them....."
Most of the couples who want children, don't think about the future of kids. World is too selfish where everyone first keeps their happiness in place. Why do people want kids?
- To continue their family name
- To have some fun in their own lives
- Support for their old age
- coz everyone else is having kids?
- Kids change their lives, make it filled with love?
Where's the space for the kid here? It's all about I, my life and my happiness, isn't it?
So asking someone not to have kids, coz they can't take care of kids isn't fare.
Taking care doesn't just mean financial capabilities. In this era, one should also think of environmental effects. I am not sure if I will be able to save my kid from any likely natural calamities (earth quake, hunger) that's likely gonna be there for sure due to increasing global warming. But I still want to add to my carbon foot prints and at the same time wanna bear the child. Why? coz I wanna be happy at this time. Who cares about the poor child? Who cares if she won't have any clean water to drink, there won't be any fuel to run even the production factories for producing daily necessities?
Ma'am pls open the comments for Wordpress/OpenID too!
:) Frankly speaking you cannot even predict whether you'll be alive tomorrow or not. In that case anybody deciding to bear a child is irresponsible, because she may not be living to raise the child. But I donot blame them. There are a lot of things that cant be predicted.
I have a problem when people commit known errors. You know you are not finanically stable to raise 5 children... well then dont have them. You know you are too busy and preoccupied with your life and career to add another liability... dont bear the child. You know you have an abusive family and you are too timid to protect your child... dont bring her then.
You also know that tomorrow your child is definitely gonna suffer due to the steps you take today in terms of environment! It's not too predictable, but you can surely guess it seeing the way the temperature is rising year on year. So I would consider that too as a known error. Come on, you are adding to population that's already at it's peak, so that too is accountable. In my personal view, it's a known error.
But just as I said, your financial stability, environmental issues, will never affect one's decision to bear a child of her/his own, as everyone has child for their happiness and on one really cares much about the kid as such.
It's similar to the case when people dream about your kid, or kids' marriage etc, you actually don't think of their children, they think of their status and happiness.
oops last comment was full of grammatical confusion :D
Anyways, the topic is always debatable. One should first as why they want a child. The answer to that is the only deciding factor. Definition of capability differs for everyone. Who knows a slum kid might just be as happy as you are!
:) My whole point is that people should think themseleves about different things before they make that decision. They should know that they are accountable for what their child does and faces untill he is responsible himself. But my view doesnot matter to anyone except myself.
I do not agree totally that people are indifferent to the plight of their children. The reason why people have kids might be their own happiness, but there is certainly an emotional bonding between parents and kids in most of the cases.
As for a slum kid being happy, I do not disagree... he can be. No kid loves study ;) But that still does not justify his parents adding to the brood if they have no intentions to take care of them and if they assume that children become responsible themselves.
Ideally, if one individual has just one kid, the kid will eventually replace that person on the planet's resources. So, though I understand the planet may not be as b'ful for ur kid as it was for u, you have not added to the burden of planet, except for the time when there is an overlap. Again, life on earth is not totally bad and gloomy, whether it is worthy or not, everybody has their own point of view.
I have something more to add on this.. but woh phone pe ;)
Your are right, if each individual has one kid, problem may not be that big. But the crime has already happened. Our ancestors were kind enough to rice the population to this level, so now, that hum-do-humara-ek also is a bit too much (in my opinion).
About parents worried about the plight of their kids: Yes, it does happen eventually, but does everyone need to have a biological child for that? Does the DNA change the measure of love to the child? Ask any female, why she wants to bear her own kid and not adopt one if her needs are adding fun to life and old-age support? Most of the time the answer would be "I wanna go thru the process of giving birth to the child. It's a wonderful process."
Well it might be. And if it's really a wonderful process for you then why not for a slum lady? And why get one life into this already pissed off world where the future is gonna be so uncertain? Just coz you wanna go through a nine months process and get your DNA going?
(Baki phone pe :P)
I really need to meet those females who say that :O They should be given a tour of labour room first ;)
If you are so sure that the future is uncertain or rather so ceratin that its bad... do you approve people commiting suicide because they have given up on the world? Young people who can change things giving up and committing suicide?
Do you sometimes feel that terrorists are not wrong if they are a bit more eco-friendly and precise? If they wipe out complete families? That it is good for the planet in general?
:) :) :)
I don't know what to say! Firstly let me know if you agree to a few points then only I think this discussion can go fruitful:
- Do you think population has become a critical problem?
- Do you think that controlling new child births can be a solution?
If your views differ, and our frequencies don't match, then we will only end up discussing the matters at different levels.
Regarding your comment:
- Let's do a survey of at least 10 women and ask them why would they like to have a biological child instead of an adopted one. You will find our answers. Most of them know what happens in labour room I believe.
- I never approved of violence as one of the solution, else I wouldn't be volunteering for the rights of the underprivileged. Controlling the new births can be the best "humanitarian" solution in my opinion, as it's also benefiting the existing lives, and might just save those unborn from the future disasters.
One more point I missed about poors having more children is the health issues. Yeah there are other issues like preferring male child and lack of awareness about contraceptives, but the most important reason (according to the recent surveys) is the lack of proper health facilities. I read somewhere that 1 out of 10 child in slums and rural areas die due to diarrhea and that's one of the poor people prefer more children, as they aren't sure how long the one that they have will live for! And as a normal urban person, poors too want some support for their old age, in fact that urge is more in poors as they don't have insurance, or any financial securities like you and I have!
:D we really need to call to discuss ;)
- Do you think population has become a critical problem?
Yes I do.
- Do you think that controlling new child births can be a solution?
Controlling Yes. Curbing No.
If God forbid everybody accepts your suggestions then human race may come to an end. As is the case with many developed countries having negative population growth, this is movement from disaster to another.
Poor section of the society may claim lack of health facilities as one reason, but it surely is not the sole or the chief reason. I understand that the health facilities are not easily accessible and is certainly not free of charge, but the poor children do not get nutritious food or care in terms of attention from their family, this fact can also not be ignored. Probably the parents are usually unaware whether their children are running loosely on a busy road or taking cigarrates from an early age. The reason is that they have too many children to give individual attention to each child.
And if by any chance you mean to tell me that the poor should not be stopped from having children coz they are poor and ignorant and need children for support, etc etc... while the educated ones should bear the brunt, I strongly disagree!!!!!
Well as I said, this discussion can go endless .. as both of us are walking on different lanes..
Anyways, not having a biological child and adopting one is surely not curbing population. There are plenty of orphan kids you would find daily begging on the road, and on the other end, you find every day at least 10 kids being born. The solution I gave can give life to all those kids who are not blessed with parents. I never said that you must not have children until human race ends! In any case if the population grows at the same rate, human race and all the other race might just end :-)
Besides I only tried to give some facts as to why poor have so many kids, it doesn't mean that it's a valid reason. They are problems that need to be resolved.
"And if by any chance you mean to tell me that the poor should not be stopped from having children coz they are poor and ignorant and need children for support, etc etc... while the educated ones should bear the brunt, I strongly disagree!!!!!"
No I didnt mean what you interpreted :-). But at the same time I do not agree that poors should not have children coz of their poverty, and elites can go on having children, then it's not acceptable. Basically, before coming to any judgment like "poor should not have any kids coz they can't afford" - We must think why poor have children. Health care is just one of the many reasons, so instead of stopping them from having children, and giving license for the same to upper class only, we must work on the issues that are faced by underprivileged. The educated ones never bear the brunt, instead it has always been poors who suffer due to all the wrong-doings of the elite class! Regarding kids getting spoiled at younger age, that's been a problem with all the classes and not just poor.
Just see if you can come out with a scenario of human life in forest (that would've been at the time of evolution), with all the laws of nature well followed, you will see that population wouldn't have been a problem at all. But since human race has chosen to break most of nature's laws, the issue of population arises.
Seju my point is that those kids that you see begging on streets are usually not totally orphans or abandoned. Its not posssible for an infant to reach an age of 4-5 unless someone is providing him basic food, untill he is capable enough to learn to use human emotions :) And I am against the concept of that only. If we can somehow stop kids getting born to beg on streets, this situation will not arise. Nobody has to adopt them, if they are not left there in the first place. There are very few children who lose both their parents with nobody to take care of them and these are the kids who should be adopted.
In any case on an average, an educated family has 1-2 children and not more than that, while the average in uneducated section is much higher. So, if you say all should have 1-2 children, I agree. But if you say dont stop the uneducated ones; but ask the upper section to adopt the poor children thats unfair.
As far as suffering due to elite is concerned. They earn from them only. You pay for the services that they produce. Simple give and take. Obviously you ( or I ;)) would want to pay the least possible for some job. A game of demand and supply. If there are 10 people ready to do a job, the person demanding least will get it, everything else kept alike. And again more the population, tougher the competition!!!
Sigh, you are correlating different ends.. I never said elite class should stop having kids and poors should continue. But I am against the vice-versa. Everyone must have right to their happiness. The poors have more kids due to lot of other issues which needs resolution. Taking away their right is not a good shortcut.
Regarding my thoughts on population, that was the suggestion given by me for the issues of population irrespective of the financial status. But I assume not everyone thinks in the same line. So let us not connect to uncorrelated issues :-)
I will stop here finally!
Finally we agree ;)
"Everyone must have right to their happiness."
... irrespective of financial status :)
sorry ppl I m nobody to comment as I don't think I have that high intellect or great heart but then also may be I m selfish person I want to say somethings after this long discussion which when I read I thought it will be fruitfull:
Sej: Blog doesn't say about poor or rich it just says "Some people bear children without knowing whether they can nurture and take care of them, whether they have the time, energy and money to raise a kid." it means anybody one with more work pressure, mental pressur etc etc........ and it also doesn't says that don't give birth to achild it just says to consider their decisions first if I got it right.
And I also want to say that may be giving birth to a child is a selfish decisions but after that it's all about giving not only our parents, everyone from a mentally challanged child to a normal child each and every parents just hel their chidren for their life . Nowadays it's rare that child take care of their parents at ld age
just don't be so negative dear.
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Here I am: " I think I can make you meet hundreds of women who knows and seen what happen in labour room and they know sometimes their life is in danger but then also they will love it. There are many reasons making their bond strong, continue their name legacy but u can consider it also atype of duty that they need tp prform for Life Cycle to continue. And if you see world from different pt of view I don't think so we are going down hill
we didn't know about no. of deaths earlier, ratio of people dying/ people alive I think is decreased rather than increased. If earlier somebody used to go to a different city rather country he /she would have been alone their nowadays you have communication which will always make you feel u r connected, u r needed somewhere no matter what. disorder if u say is increased wat u will say when kingdom's were ther, aur when tribes and all used to attack other tribes just for food, lust etc. so it's just we know more we think more
It's not bad to think but please don't be so negative.
But it's always good to read discussions ur discussions
and my opinion is just an opinion. You people can continue
@Anonymous: I guess I already stopped the discussion. We tried to take it over voice chat latter :-)
I don't know, but somehow I feel, this Anonymous is none other than... SONA!
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